Is life worth it?

[Barry]

If God asked you to come back again a couple more times or so, as part of a plan or project to make things a little more love conscious around here would how would you feel about it?

Would you rather set preconditions first?
What are your thoughts?
Is life here worth it?


[Not that I'm pushing reincarnation only thinking about this in hypothetical perspectives to talk about how we feel about our life here.]

Blessings to all
Barry

[Lauri]

Wow Barry that's a REALLY good question. My first thought was I think I would first want to know what's the alternative? I have loved my life and look forward to the rest of the journey. I definitely think life is worth it or people wouldn't fight so hard to keep it when faced with death. I don't think I would set preconditions if I came back and I don't think I would want to know the outcome. I'll have to think some more on that but those are my first thoughts.

Lauri

[Barry]

Really great Lauri to hear your thoughts and am looking forward to hearing some more of your own and hopefully from some others. :)
Barry

[Paige]

Without hesitation I would say yes to coming back, if it meant coming back to the life I know now. When I think about an unknown life with no preset conditions, the risk of living a life in bondage to fear or control by others doesn't seem so appealing (especially knowing what I know now). This is a tough question for me...I think life is worth it, but I can empathize with people who don't agree with me, and sometimes wonder that if I were walking in their shoes, I might feel the same.

Paige

[Barry]

Some great points IMO Paige.
We may often tend to very much judge others when we have not walked in their shoes.
We may judge an other's "views" without having walked in the shoes that affected and sometimes assisted in how views are formulated.

Seems like we just tend to judge a lot. :)
Barry

[Jotham]

Fun stuff as usual Barry.
Good points Lauri and Page : )

I would come back with the condition that i would return retaining the knowledge i left off with during the first visit AND returning within same or greater economic wealth and good health i currently enjoy. IOW, i'm NOT willing to come back as a pauper, or living a life of lesser materialsitic comfort. Yea that's probably a bit selfish on my part. But my life is good and i wouldn't want to live any lesser of an existance comfort wise.

call me a wuss

: ) Thom

[Barry]

Thom
You are a wuss. :)
Barry

LOL ROFL.

[Jotham]

You are right of course Barry.

I've worked hard to get where i'm at, and i still think i'm shy of where i want to be (by a long shot). Sheesh, if Tolle could here me he'd say i need some serrious "Enlightenment" and "Awareness" in my life to get to the point that "Now" is all i need.

But then that's a whole other issue. grin.

I think it would be totally cool to come back retaining all the knowledge such as post-70ad New Covenant, Loving Creator all that good stuff even if you happen to be born into another gloomNdoom family filled with religion. You could just brush it off and be a JesusKid at 12 and amaze all the old religious foggies in their priestly robes. Might be nice to ditch the parents wagon train now and again too.

; ) Thom

[Amie]

I might have conditions too, depending on how it feels to die. Even thinking about this makes me appreciate Jesus. If he was God manifest, then he did choose to come down here. If he wasn't, he still chose to give up his own life to bring humanity into a new conscious state.

Wild. When I first thought about it before I was sure. My second thoughts aren't so bold.

Amie

[Jotham]

ah Amie, you bring up a good point on the dying thingy. I hadn't thought of that part of the first-leaving/departure.

So my third condition is the first time i go it's in my sleep and i'm dreaming of making wild passonate love to my wife and i just don't wake up except on the other side in the big Nexus in the sky. Then the Big LC (Loving Creator) informs me i've got a choice and can go back...this time being the smart whipper-snaper, handsome debonair guy i am, plus richer than Bill Gates.

OK, yea, i'd come back.

[Lauri]

I don't know if I would want to come back with the same life, knowledge, and comforts I have now. Although I love my life I think there is alot to be learned by living a different life. Although we have lived through bouts of unemployment I have never been in want of anything and I sometimes wonder how life would be different without all the trappings of things and the worry that comes along with having them. of course it's easy to say that about a hypothetical situation. I'm sure if heaven is what we've always been taught it is and I had a choice, I would probably choose to stay.

Lauri

[Jotham]

...I'm sure if heaven is what we've always been taught it is and I had a choice, I would probably choose to stay.With all i've read over the past few years i do wonder if there is a "heaven" after. So what if this is it? And if so, might that knowledge change one's perspective in having a second, or third go at it? And no, i'm not into or proposing reincarnation either (just as Barry mentioned in his first post).
:rolleyes:
What if after we are "done" here we just meld into some "all in all" sort of God Presence? lots to ponder.

[Amie]

Thom,

I do think that we will meld but that there is a point in this life. We become, and then we take that with us. We will never loose what was given us.

Just my view on it :)

Amie

[Jotham]

I aggree with your view of "Becoming" or somehow adding to the core we began with our physical entrance to this current existance, AND to the melding. Sometimes when i think of such a melding, with the limited imagination or information i might have, i am saddened. For years (35ish??) i would dream of being an individual (there is that ego thing i suppose?) in the great beyond. At this point i'm not sure of anything but a Loving Creator's love. Maybe that's all i need to be sure of. : )

Thom

[Amie]

Thom,

I know what you mean about the sadness. I am comforted knowing that I cannot unbecome. Being Thom cannot be undone. Loving your wife cannot be undone. Having your children cannot be undone. Etc. Nothing that has been done can be undone.

I think you will therefore still be an individual. I think that we will be integrated. I think that might be the direction of humanity right here too. We started as one -- even as God himself (all things are from God, right?). We fractured so that we might become grow in seperate environments and become individuals. In Jesus, we reintegrate but without going back to where we started. That's my thoughts currently anyhow.

Amie

[Barry]

I think you will therefore still be an individual. I think that we will be integrated. I think that might be the direction of humanity right here too. We started as one -- even as God himself (all things are from God, right?). We fractured so that we might become grow in seperate environments and become individuals. In Jesus, we reintegrate but without going back to where we started. That's my thoughts currently anyhow.

Amie

Yes, IMHO that is about as close as we may get.
Merging is not itself a loss as we perceive it.

One island says to another, "My trees and my beaches are more beautiful then yours".
The other says, "My mountains and rivers make me very special in ways that you cannot even come close too".

Then the water receded and they see their inseparable oneness and interconnectedness.
The beaches and the rivers are still beaches and rivers.
They are God defined instead of self defined.
God is all and in all. But "all" has a meaning.

Just a thought.
Barry

[Jotham]

I don't know if Barry has any beaches
But i know he his river runs deep

: ) Thom

[Lou]

If God asked you to come back again a couple more times or so, as part of a plan or project to make things a little more love conscious around here would how would you feel about it?

Would you rather set preconditions first?
What are your thoughts?
Is life here worth it?


[Not that I'm pushing reincarnation only thinking about this in hypothetical perspectives to talk about how we feel about our life here.]

Blessings to all
Barry


I would do it without a second thought.

[Grandma]

Hope it gets to the right place.
If I were asked to be a "Jesus" to a civilization on another planet (and I believe there may be some out there), knowing that the Father would help me, I just might. :uhh: I wouldn't want to come back HERE though, just to live another life here on earth. :( I'm 81, tired, and ready to go and be with my Father any time He calls me. I plan to enjoy life here as much as I can before I go though.
Grandma