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Amie
05-24-2006, 11:48 AM
An article I read today reads:


Rape is the height of shame & is the theft of a woman’s dignity, thus this kind of action or reference to such action (even to males) is supposed to convey utmost distain, rejection, shame, disrespect, & indignation against the person.

Is rape the "theft of a woman's dignity", or would such a statement rather define one possible motive for rape?

As well, if a rapist intends to rob anyone of their dignity, does intent mean accomplishment? IOW, if the rapist means to take away the dignity of their victim, does that mean the rapist did rob them of that dignity? I don't think so at all. There are numbers of survivors of sexual crimes whose dignity is fully in tact.. I would hope that the author isn't suggesting that a woman's dignity is defined by her hymen, and a man's by penetration.


As a father guards the dignity & purity of his daughter so we ought to guard doctrine from those who would like to “deflower” her all the while saying they are trying to show “love”. In the same way a brother would guard the dignity & honor of his sister so too we ought to protect the honor of doctrine against those who say they are trying to be “loving” all the while they leave doctrine lying on the floor, cheaply used.

Some efforts were seemingly made to not make this focused on female victimization in the quote I shared with you beforehand, but to no avail.

Here we have his image of a father guarding the purity of his daughter and a brother guarding the purity of his sister.

Do women need guarding today? Did they in ancient times? Why or why not?

Amie

Paige
05-24-2006, 12:25 PM
Amie,

I find the statements terribly short-sighted. First-off, is rape only a female issue? Do mothers protect their little boys as well as their little girls?


IOW, if the rapist means to take away the dignity of their victim, does that mean the rapist did rob them of that dignity? I don't think so at all.

Agreed. I can choose whether or not I give another that kind of power.

Something else is illustrated in Joseph's statement to his brothers. "What you meant for evil, God meant for good" (my paraphrase). How does that work into the author's premise of his article (or does it)?



Do women need guarding today? Did they in ancient times? Why or why not?

I'm asking if men need guarding today, and did they in ancient times? I'm really baffled by the assumptions and assertions going on...
Was God in control of anything at all?

Paige

Amie
05-25-2006, 12:39 PM
You made some really good points.

My last question was literal. I'm honestly wondering if women were as kept as they are made out to be. If they were, I would almost guarantee that it didn't mean for them, what it would mean today.

Amie