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Religious groups build attack on Amnesty International abortion rights proposal
By Brian Murphy
ASSOCIATED PRESS
11:36 a.m. July 24, 2006
ATHENS, Greece – Famed for its human rights work, Amnesty International is under siege from religious groups outraged by a proposal that would expand Amnesty's mandate to include supporting access to abortion in cases such as sexual violence.
A small but growing band of anti-abortion campaigners and Roman Catholic clerics – including some who have backed Amnesty's activities in the past – claim the Nobel Prize-winning group is drifting away from its principles of unbiased advocacy.
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This seems like an overreaction on the part of religious groups to me. They aren't discussing going full-on "pro-abortion", they are talking about making it available for women who have been raped or who medically can not carry out the pregnancy.
This seems like an overreaction on the part of religious groups to me. They aren't discussing going full-on "pro-abortion", they are talking about making it available for women who have been raped or who medically can not carry out the pregnancy.
I found this in the article
Amnesty says the discussions under way include broader issues such as the health risks of illegal abortions ....
Given the things the pro-abortion lobby does with coat hangers, this is no overreaction.
JL
ozark
07-25-2006, 12:39 PM
Yes, both sides are afraid of “the slippery slope.” They are very much aware that the course of nations and of organizations are usually not changed all at once but one small decision at a time. Therefore, they fear taking even a small step down a path. It is not so much the small step but where they fear it will lead.
I missed that in the article JL, thanks.
I don't think abortion is the problem, it is a symptom IMO. I am all for liberty, and am very concerned (maybe not as concerned as the women who have gone through it) for the lives being lost.
We could learn so much from women who have made the choice to have an abortion. We could solve problems based on what they say.
It seems like people are too interested in arguing abortion itself rather than solving the problems.
Whether or not this is or could be a slippery slope, the issue is whether or not women should be allowed to die with the baby in medical cases, or whether or not a woman should be allowed to abort a baby created by rape.
As well, this article is not talking about the USA, but places where children are raped and become pregnant - or become pregnant by their arranged husbands.
They are just little girls who started menstrating. That does not mean their bodies are ready for childbirth.
Amie
christyG
07-27-2006, 04:51 AM
I read the article and also feel it is an overreation on the part of religious organizations. I also happened to notice the addition of birth control to the discussion as a problem issue as well. Birth control, a problem? You know when I became pregnant with my third child and many strangers approached me and asked about my pregnancy..."Oh, is this your first?", and I would respond and say, "No, my third", most would then say, "Ohhh, are you Catholic, are you Mormon?" In other words, they believed my choice to have multiple children to be a religious choice......It wasn't by the way.
The bottom line is what is happening to these little girls and women around the world is not their choice, it is a crime and any way that any organization feels that they can best assist these women and girls in getting past the horrible abuse is something worth supporting.....outside of religious or personal beliefs.
Christy
The bottom line is what is happening to these little girls and women around the world is not their choice, it is a crime and any way that any organization feels that they can best assist these women and girls in getting past the horrible abuse is something worth supporting.....outside of religious or personal beliefs.
Christy
Amen sister!! You said it!
Amie
I may be naďve but it seems to me if the “sexual violence” (an overly mild term for what is going on in many places) was dealt with abortion wouldn’t be an issue. :2cents:
I agree Lou. It's one of many real issues that underlie the symptom (abortion).
anthonwde
07-29-2006, 02:39 PM
While I do not consider myself a religiously dogmatic person, I have to agree with the religious groups on this issue.
Committing abortion is a counterproductive and undefendable position that is only considered a "smart" alternative within the confines of an ilogical society such as ours today.
Religious groups are obviously standing for live, and this is a fight they believe very strongly about. Nothing wrong with defending the life of those who cannot help themselves such as unborn babies.
Anthon,
Welcome to the forums :). I think that arguing about abortion detracts from the real issues - what causes a want/need for abortion to begin with (as you said, it only exists within certain confines ;)).
I am "for" life and personal liberty. There must be some solutions out there that allow for both.
Amie
anthonwde
07-31-2006, 08:53 PM
Amy
I am sure that people can quote several opinions as to why it would be a good idea to commit abortion. I too believe in freedom and liberty, and I think the focus should be placed not in the illogical arguments some may come up with in favor of considering abortion a positive choice, but instead the emphasis should be in the devastating results of abortion, in both the individual and society.
In a time where many nations are negatively being affected by decreasing birth-rates, western and eastern Europe to mention some areas, it is amazing to see how may people still consider abortion to be a good idea.
Again I am sure that some people can bring forward unreasonable arguments for aborting a future human life and call it "reasons for abortion" but the botton line is every society that has adopted abortion-like practices, has done so at the expense of their future.
I don't think that a woman who has had an abortion would say that she feels great about what happened.
Why continue to focus on the symptom of a problem (abortion), and not focus on the problem at hand (lack of education, lack of planning, lack of options, etc)??
Would I be wrong in assuming that you have never had nor known anyone who has had an abortion?
Amie
anthonwde said:
In a time where many nations are negatively being affected by decreasing birth-rates, western and eastern Europe to mention some areas, it is amazing to see how may people still consider abortion to be a good idea.
I don’t have facts to back this up but what I often hear is that parents are having smaller families for economic reasons. I wouldn’t think abortion would be used for birth control in that setting, they usually use sterilization.
I agree with Amie, we need to deal with the root cause.
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