First resurrection.

[enarchay]

Hello. I'm new to the message board and made an introductory post on the other section of the forum. Feel free to read it.

As of now, my beliefs are similar to what I guess you would consider partial Preterism. I see almost all of the Book of Revelation being fulfilled around 70 A.D. However, I still see the second resurrection, renewal of the Earth, and destruction of death and hades as future. This leads me to my question.

What do you believe about the first resurrection? Right now, I'm of the belief, like Andrew of open source theology, that the first resurrection was a resurrection around the first century A.D. specifically for those martyred for the Gospel of Christ. They were to be resurrected into Heaven to reign with Christ over Earth. That means, according to my belief, when Christians die today they enter hades (what ever you believe that to mean) and have hope for a future second resurrection after which the Earth will be renewed and joined with Heaven as the Paradise, New Jerusalem, descends to Earth where the first century Christians have been waiting in Heaven.

What is your view? Do you think the first resurrection is future? Do you think the first resurrection was, rather, an afterlife?

Post your views!

[Laren]

For now, I see first resurrection as started at pentacost, and consumated at the parousia of Christ, for those given "eyes to see" who lived by the faith of Christ.

It is the rewarding of those faithul to the faith of Christ. I tend to see the resurrection to damnation (second resurrection) as the destruction of the mode of life of law abiding for righteousness, which was upon those "fitted for destruction, hardened Israel".




Hello. I'm new to the message board and made an introductory post on the other section of the forum. Feel free to read it.

As of now, my beliefs are similar to what I guess you would consider partial Preterism. I see almost all of the Book of Revelation being fulfilled around 70 A.D. However, I still see the second resurrection, renewal of the Earth, and destruction of death and hades as future. This leads me to my question.

What do you believe about the first resurrection? Right now, I'm of the belief, like Andrew of open source theology, that the first resurrection was a resurrection around the first century A.D. specifically for those martyred for the Gospel of Christ. They were to be resurrected into Heaven to reign with Christ over Earth. That means, according to my belief, when Christians die today they enter hades (what ever you believe that to mean) and have hope for a future second resurrection after which the Earth will be renewed and joined with Heaven as the Paradise, New Jerusalem, descends to Earth where the first century Christians have been waiting in Heaven.

What is your view? Do you think the first resurrection is future? Do you think the first resurrection was, rather, an afterlife?

Post your views!

[Amie]

I agree with Laren. The first and second resurrections were actually two parts of the very same resurrection.

First was the resurrection of the saints. This was the firstfruits entering into death with Christ, and receiving to themselves the promise of life. They reigned with Christ in that the spirit literally spoke and worked through them. They raised the dead, spoke in different languages, healed the infirm, and could say with all authority that Jesus was giving instruction through them. Some examples of Paul making clarification:

1Co 7:6 But I say this by permission, not by command.

1Co 7:10 But I command the ones being married (not I, but the Lord), that a woman is not to be separated from her husband;

They judged the twelve tribes of Israel, sharing the throne/authority of Jesus Christ. When all were called out who would be, so the firstfruits were fully accepted, all authority was put down.

1Co 15:24 Then is the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God, even the Father, when He makes to cease all rule and all authority and power.

The authority in Jerusalem was removed:

Rev 20:9 And they went up over the breadth of the land and encircled the camp of the saints, and the beloved city. And fire from God came down out of Heaven and burned them down.
Rev 20:10 And the Devil leading them astray was thrown into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet were. And they were tormented day and night to the ages of the age

The reason that the rest of the dead even lived, was the reconciliation of the world to God through the work of Christ. However, there was no room for the old system (the old "heaven and earth") in the new world.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a Great White Throne, and the One sitting on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled; and a place was not found for them.

The New Covenant was the fulfillment of a given promise (the Old Covenant). They cannot co-exist.

Good thing that Jesus warned them:

Mat 24:15 Then when you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (the one reading, let him understand), Dan. 11:31; 12:11
Mat 24:16 then let those in Judea flee into the mountains;

Mar 13:14 But when you see "the abomination of desolation," the one spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not (he reading, let him understand), then let those in Judea flee into the mountains. Dan. 11:31; 12:11

Luk 21:20 And when you see Jerusalem being encircled by armies, then recognize that its destruction has come near.
Luk 21:21 Then let those in Judea flee into the mountains; and those in its midst, let them go out. And those in the open spaces, let them not go into her.

Otherwise at this point:

Rev 20:9 And they went up over the breadth of the land and encircled the camp of the saints, and the beloved city. And fire from God came down out of Heaven and burned them down.

They may have gotten burned.

JMO :)

Amie

[Barry]

For now, I see first resurrection as started at pentacost, and consumated at the parousia of Christ, for those given "eyes to see" who lived by the faith of Christ.

It is the rewarding of those faithul to the faith of Christ. I tend to see the resurrection to damnation (second resurrection) as the destruction of the mode of life of law abiding for righteousness, which was upon those "fitted for destruction, hardened Israel".

Good points,
The first resurrection was the life of the first-fruits. They brought forth the rest of the harvest in the first century "fulfillment of all things written".
Barry